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Russ Hickman's avatar

I was struck by the following passage, which I altered by changing the country in question:

"The CHINESE System sought to make CHINA the 'workshop of the world,' with a global monopoly on industrial production. Other countries were to provide food and raw materials, in exchange for CHINESE manufactures.

By contrast, the American System encouraged national self-sufficiency. Americans were urged to produce everything they needed in their own country, including food, raw materials and manufactures.

The two systems were incompatible and bound to collide."

Change the year to 2023 and we are in a similar situation, with America trying to reclaim the American System that in abandoned over the past 25 years or so. Or, at least, move manufacturing out of China to countries more closely aligned with American interests, if not to America itself.

John Mugge's avatar

Trump was trying to bring manufacturing back to the US. He raised tariffs against the Chinese. It's believed the Chinese respect Trump as they understand his motives and goals were simply to do what is best for America. Trump would wage economic war, if you want to call it that, whereas others would threaten military conflict.

Rob06's avatar

And just as the British empire used opium to keep the Chinese population down, the Chinese government is now using fentanyl to do the same to the United States.

John Mugge's avatar

And since the porous border enhances the drug trafficking, one could make a case of collusion between Biden and China.

Colonel Mustard's avatar

Are you sure it’s the Chinese? Not considering alternatives seems like turning a blind eye to what Poe is writing about.

John's avatar

Teva Pharmaceuticals, an Israeli company, is the worlds largest producer of fentanyl with 50 plants across 30 countries. They have the largest plant in Canada – and 3 locations in Mexico, close to their major consumer market, the United States of America.... coincidence?

Iron Fist's avatar

The Bolshevik bot farm is still trying to cover for their criminals.

BOLSHEVIKS ARE ALWAYS THE PROBLEM.

mtman2's avatar

Germany was put under Bolshevik-2 from 1918 to 1933 when it was put down:

America been under Bolshevik-3 Esp. since the end of WW2 = incrementally because "WE the People" are well armed & why D-Rats are always trying to disarm us;

See- Communist Goals for America

https://www.marxists.org/subject/art/literature/children/ref/gov/gov1.html

ArtemisForestFairy's avatar

Folly to blame a nation when the bankers have no nation.

mtman2's avatar

Exactly = they want all nations under their chosen tool of choice being Communism being Atheist MarXism to easily then usher in the NWO under a OWGov. and they are Luciferian in a Darkness not yet undercovered for the world to see as defini-tively antiChrist in essence...!

ArtemisForestFairy's avatar

I believe it all stems from the Kaballah. From : The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion--- " We Appear on the scene, as ALLEGED saviors of the worker, from his oppression. When we propose to him, to enter the ranks, Of Our Fighting forces. Socialists, Anarchists, Communists, to whom we always give support, in accordance with an ALLEGED brotherly Rule, of the solidarity of humanity, of OUR social masonry. " In short, they are all agents of the very same hand. Driving the public towards the single, chosen goal.

Quartermaster's avatar

If the British had ordered the Royal Navy to break the blockade, it would have been done. The Russians would not have prevented it. There is more than enough evidence that points to the fact that the British did not inspire Lincoln's war.

mtman2's avatar

Russian Tsar Alexander II supported the Union, sending a Russian Navy Squadron to both New York and San Francisco and were much welcomed...!

Quartermaster's avatar

So what? The Tsar's Navy did not exactly inspire fear in the foremost naval power of that age.

mtman2's avatar

"so what" = the British did squat that's WHAT-> never happened...huh

Quartermaster's avatar

Didn't happen because the Brits had no plan to support the Confederates. London could not have cared less what the Tsar did with his Navy.

That's why "so what?"

mtman2's avatar

Of course you were at the meeting right...lol

Nah of they didn't for the more opposition the more risk...lol.

Just like you lying back stabbing pricks tried sneaking up the Mississippi til taught a lesson in 45 minutes caused the fn "Crown"

loss for àll taste for War with the U.S, in seeing what Andrew Jackson did to you gutless cowards-> always needing protection of massive forces, didn't help you dumb asses there either...huh...lol

And this by us Mt.men, Farmers and Hillbilly's = whopped the tar outta ya bigtime and ya'll feared a repeat of that huh...0oops

Quartermaster's avatar

I'm not British. I'm American. There is a lot out there that tells why the Brits did not support the Confederacy. They were under pressure to do so, however, but there was nothing to be gained by doing so.

Jack Hammer's avatar

Probably the stupidest comment I’ve read this year

Elial1's avatar

The strategy Britain took with the Confederacy sounds a lot like the carrot and stick approach used with Ukraine in the proxy war against Russia - the promise of joining the EU and NATO, but having to shed enough Ukrainian blood first.

Three Class Model's avatar

It's still the British, the City of London. Remember China was also savaged by British colonialism for over 100 years. The Chinese practice the American System, protective tariffs and national bank used to issue credit for productive internal improvements.....

Bushwacked71's avatar

Nothing British about the city of London.

mtman2's avatar

Exactly and those Low-Info's here that are stuck in minutae cannot grasp just how out of touch they are as to seeing the actual

bigger picture that's a must foundationally to discuss anything relevant...!

Jack Hammer's avatar

The city of London just happens to be the current home of globalists. Even as I speak, they’re probably moving again. But it was the power behind the British imperium.

mtman2's avatar

1 sq mi of "The City of London" Central bankster(Globalist's) already owned the British Empire financially when "WE the People" in 1776 dropped a wrench into its gears midstream of their 1st attempt at a NWO making the world British in using them, and OUR "War for Independence" damped it from a planetary whirlwind to a far lighter roar going forward;

Bent on reacquiring us, they mostly did by the illegal monetary control in 1913 to then incrementally gain more each decade since,

WE've been in their implimented Bolshevik-3 since, Esp. the past 35yrs since GHWB and UN Agenda-21 now added 2030:

However American's are Awakening finally from a long slumber being "the sleeping giant"...!

jeremy lackner's avatar

As an Australian I never fully understood the origin of the fratricidal American civil war… Thank you for this wonderful piece of research!

Diogenes Spooner's avatar

There is nothing "puzzling or intractable" about the political philosophy that inspired, and was explicated within, The Constitution of The United States of America.

You have written at length here and elsewhere regarding the empires of the world, providing historical evidence for the motivations of different actors on the world stage, with a zeal that demands commendation.

This commendation I offer to you with a humble request; Tell me where in the following citation you find some defense for the prevention by force, by murderous violence, of self-determination for a people?

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

- Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776

Blank's avatar

Thank you for writing

Sean Corvin's avatar

Love my kin just as much as the next person. We are different and have always been subservient in class structure to the people you mention. The game you seek is not national it is purly satanic.

Mike's avatar

Mr Poe, can you offer any context for the actions of President Millard Fillmore with regard to British manufacturing and trade.

William Pritting's avatar

What would Robert E. Lee have done if the Confederacy had defeated the Union?

I wonder if Lee knew about the Grand Plan to unite the British colony of the South with the newly created British colony of Mexico and to unite the North with the British colony of Canada?

I wonder if Lee knew that it was the British who instigated the Civil War for the purpose of abolishing the USA, and that it was the British who fomented secession in the South to preserve the South as a British colony and it was the British who fomented secession in the North through the abolitionists?

How the British Caused the American Civil War

Britain's Scheme to Partition and Recolonize America in the 1860s

https://richardpoe.substack.com/p/how-the-british-caused-the-american

The Larouche position on "the English" was stated recently: "The most important constant in the history of the United States of America has been the implacable hostility of the British Empire and the London-centered British oligarchy. This hostility generated the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812 and the Civil War, in addition to many lesser clashes. But after Gettysburg and Vicksburg in 1863, the reality of US military and naval superiority forced London to come to terms with the inevitable persistence of the United States on the world scene as a great power for another century and more. By 1895-1898, galloping British decadence, expressed as industrial decline combined with a looming inability to maintain global naval domination, suggested to the circles of the soon-to-be King Edward VII the advisability of harnessing the power and resources of the United States to the British imperial chariot. Thus was born the London-Washington Special Relationship, under which the United States was established as London's auxiliary, proxy, and dupe through such stages as the 1898 Anglo-American rapprochement before Manila Bay, Edward VII's sponsorship of Theodore Roosevelt's aspirations to "Anglo-Saxon" respectability and, most decisively, Woodrow Wilson's declaration of war on Germany in April, 1917. Under the Special Relationship, London has parlayed its financial and epistemological dominance over the United States into profound and often decisive influence over US directions in foreign policy and finance."

Who are the Anglo-American Deep State Establishment Pilgrims Society, founded in 1902 after the death of Cecil Rhodes and the implementation of his Last Wills, and their creation of the British Empire Press Union and Round Table Movement, which then created the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)?

https://aim4truth.org/2019/09/13/origins-of-fake-news/

https://americans4innovation.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-secret-plot-in-1909-by-anglo.html

How Cecil Rhodes Fathered the Modern Globalist Movement: a Timeline

https://stovouno.org/2019/02/21/how-cecil-rhodes-fathered-the-modern-globalist-movement-timeline/

The Origins of the Deep State in North America Part I: The Round Table Movement

https://canadianpatriot.org/2022/01/27/origins-of-deep-state-part1/

LILLIAN SCOTT TROY (1882-1964): AN UNSUNG HEROINE OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC

https://americans4innovation.blogspot.com/2022/07/lillian-scott-troy-1882-1964-unsung.html

The 24-step Pilgrims Society

Corporatist Imperial Federation

Strategy to Return America to

British Rule

https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/1912-02-17-The-24-step-Pilgrims-Society-Corp-Imperial-Fed-Strat-to-Return-America-to-British-Rule-by-Lillian-Scott-Troy-by-Hon-J-Thorkelson-MN-1940-SF-Leader-GPO-George-Mason-Feb-17-24-1912.pdf

Congressional Record of 1941: The Hon. J. Thorkelson Exposes the Anglo-American Pilgrims Society

https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/1940-08-19-GPO-CRECB-1940-pt-17-v86-1-Steps-Toward-British-Union-a-World-State-and-International-Strife-PTS-I-IX-Remarks-of-Hon-J-Thorkelson-MN-House-of-Reps-Gov-Printing-Off-Aug-19-1940.pdf#page=15

Sir Andrew Carnegie and Cecil Rhodes:

Planners of Internationalism

https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/1967-Sir-Andrew-Carnegie-and-Cecil-J-Rhodes-Planners-of-Internationalism-The-George-Mason-School-of-Correspondence-by-CO-Garshwiler-ed-Education-Information-Inc-1967.pdf

The Anglo-American Deep State Establishment Pilgrims Society (1902)

https://isgp-studies.com/pilgrims-society-us-uk

https://watch.pairsite.com/pilgrim.html

https://william3n4z2.substack.com/p/the-anglo-american-pilgrims-society?utm_source=direct&r=1kb28q&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=post%20viewer

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The Oath of Allegiance sworn by British Commonwealth Prime Ministers is a pledge of loyalty to the reigning monarch, currently King Charles III, and includes a commitment to serve faithfully according to the law. This oath is typically required before they can assume their official duties in government.

https://duckduckgo.com/?origin=funnel__website&t=h_&q=The+Oath+of+Allegiance+Sworn+by+British+Commonwealth+Prime+Ministers+to+the+King+of+England&ia=web

mtman2's avatar

I have been saying for decades that as "Cotton was King" funded by the Globalist oeners of Britain = all cotton went to British cotton mills that sold exclusively the cloth monoply they had thruout the world esp thru cheap slave labor cotton producing cloth in their child slave labor factory's;

Just realize the "City of London" banksters owned the British Empire even in 1776, and certainly did own the South monetarily right on thru 1861 in the South and wanted to continue cheap slave labor cotton and extended clear thru California as "Slave States":

Southern white worker classes were just above the black slaves so merely white slave classes beholden to the billionaire plsntation owners who were directly tied to the Globalist owned British industry giants world trade controllers...!

I'VE WRITTEN THIS ALL FOR MANY YRS

The very Globalist's WE kicked out in 1783 also were behind OUR unCivil War to divide and reconquer America economically...!

All this is easily understood once honestly researched...!

The Globalist new main branch offIce became the FED/IRS take over in 1913, to used to fund their setup Euro Civil War to take down Germany-[became WWI (1914) once they inserted their installed POTUS Wilson], while funding Lenin/Stalin to install Communist slavery over the Russian people via Bolshevik-1;

Once Germany was broken in 1918 had their U.S. FED actor's draw up the "Treaty of Versaille" to further crush the German people to accept a " Bolshevik-2 " for their attempted Coup there lasting 15yrs(1918-33) which failed once President Hindenburg appointed Adolf/Nat.Soc. as the 3rd Temprary Chancellor to stop the CommieCoup(I know this attempted over throw for my father was in firefights with those Communist terrorists they paid = just like ANTIFA/BLM here only armed there-> from 1919 to 1928 when he imigrated here, my mother had come here already prior...!

The Nat.Soc. Party headed by adolf only arose because of this concerted effort to take Germany down into Communism so later once armed up Stalin would have a partnership with Germany as Communist's, NOT have to fight them(one which they could never win);

For the plan was Communism for the entire European Continent to usher in their NWO = then America to be taken from within-> already in their incremental setup " Bolshevik-3 " here with in players in place like John Dewey to indoctrinate education and who's system was already used by Stalin;

Then crashed OUR stock market to create an intentional Depression to install their man FDR("friend of Stalin") "The New Deal" an appointed Agency DeepState, confiscate all Gold, install Ponsi SocSec scam by No., and then later their UN on American soil while selling us to the IMF in WWII at Bretton Woods by OUR SocSec No. = total enslavement of the American People cradle to grave...!

Peter Grafström's avatar

A relatively recent book by Anton Chaitkin - 'Who we are' is of interest in connection with the still polarised debate about the civil war. Since several otherwise learned observers seem to me to have got it wrong about Andrew Jackson I recommend this source, Chaitkin writes that Andrew Jackson was the first wholly foreign-owned US president.

He did not conceal that he defended the slave owners.

And likewise Thomas Jefferson. He had 600 slaves

My suspicion is that the angloamerican establishment that Carroll Quigley exposes has played a significant role in maintaining the confusion and omission about the importance of slavery and the libertarians are known to speak well of letting people depend on begging in the steets and not have any social safety nets other than what they get from generous people but where there isnt any legalized social welfair. Like in 19th century Britain

Libertarians point to Britains 1830s as a time when libertarianism worked just fine

The politicians were so powerless that it wasnt any point in bribing them

Carroll Quigleys exposure of the concerned elite group actually having undergone a name change to Pilgrim Society after Cexil Rhodes death merits more attention if one desires to understand what is behind the modern US. Not at all detached from the former colonial master

The 19th century is surprisingly little understood and I believe that is because secret societies like freemasonry dominated by the anglosaxons played a decisive role.

That also entails everything related to the Israel Project and Zionism. Freemasons played a decisive role and the original american freemasons who were the revolutionaries were purged by Palmerston during 1826-1840 resulting in the vanishing of the originally christian patriots and the rise of the Scottish Rite in the US

That period also comprises the year 1833 when Skull and Bones was established.

(Did Palmerston have a hand in that too?)

Skull and Bones had surprisingly many things in common with the british led angloamerican establishment. In my view they both practised Hegelian strategy of creating opposites to foment the sort of crisis that would eventually lead to the welcoming of a world government

Edgar Allan Poe played a role in an effort to spread the revolutionary ideas to Europe but was systematically blackpainted by Britains helpers. A very masonic method to alter history, to conform with the aims of the ruling circles